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Ion。 That is good�察�Socrates�察�and yet I doubt whether you will ever
have eloquence enough to persuade me that I praise Homer only when I
am mad and possessed�察�and if you could hear me speak of him I am
sure you would never think this to be the case。
Soc。 I should like very much to hear you�察�but not until you have
answered a question which I have to ask。 On what part of Homer do
you speak well�拭� not surely about every part。
Ion。 There is no part�察�Socrates�察�about which I do not speak well
of that I can assure you。
Soc。 Surely not about things in Homer of which you have no
knowledge��
Ion。 And what is there in Homer of which I have no knowledge��
Soc。 Why�察�does not Homer speak in many passages about arts�拭�For
example�察�about driving�察�if I can only remember the lines I will repeat
them。
Ion。 I remember�察�and will repeat them。
Soc。 Tell me then�察�what Nestor says to Antilochus�察�his son�察�where he
bids him be careful of the turn at the horse´race in honour of
Patroclus。
Ion。 He says��
Bend gently in the polished chariot to the left of them�察�and urge
the horse on the right hand with whip and voice�察�and slacken the rein。
And when you are at the goal�察�let the left horse draw near�察�yet so
that the nave of the well´wrought wheel may not even seem to touch the
extremity�察�and avoid catching the stone。
Soc。 Enough。 Now�察�Ion�察�will the charioteer or the physician be the
better judge of the propriety of these lines��
Ion。 The charioteer�察�clearly。
Soc。 And will the reason be that this is his art�察�or will there be
any other reason��
Ion。 No�察�that will be the reason。
Soc。 And every art is appointed by God to have knowledge of a
certain work�察�for that which we know by the art of the pilot we do not
know by the art of medicine��
Ion。 Certainly not。
Soc。 Nor do we know by the art of the carpenter that which we know
by the art of medicine��
Ion。 Certainly not。
Soc。 And this is true of all the arts�察� that which we know with
one art we do not know with the other�拭�But let me ask a prior
question�此�You admit that there are differences of arts��
Ion。 Yes。
Soc。 You would argue�察�as I should�察�that when one art is of one
kind of knowledge and another of another�察�they are different��
Ion。 Yes。
Soc。 Yes�察�surely�察�for if the subject of knowledge were the same��
there would be no meaning in saying that the arts were different�察�
if they both gave the same knowledge。 For example�察�I know that here
are five fingers�察�and you know the same。 And if I were to ask
whether I and you became acquainted with this fact by the help of
the same art of arithmetic�察�you would acknowledge that we did��
Ion。 Yes。
Soc。 Tell me�察�then�察�what I was intending to ask you´ whether this
holds universally�拭�Must the same art have the same subject of
knowledge�察�and different arts other subjects of knowledge��
Ion。 That is my opinion�察�Socrates。
Soc。 Then he who has no knowledge of a particular art will have no
right judgment of the sayings and doings of that art��
Ion。 Very true。
Soc。 Then which will be a better judge of the lines which you were
reciting from Homer�察�you or the charioteer��
Ion。 The charioteer。
Soc。 Why�察�yes�察�because you are a rhapsode and not a charioteer。
Ion。 Yes。
Soc。 And the art of the rhapsode is different from that of the
charioteer��
Ion。 Yes。
Soc。 And if a different knowledge�察�then a knowledge of different
matters��
Ion。 True。
Soc。 You know the passage in which Hecamede�察�the concubine of
Nestor�察�is described as giving to the wounded Machaon a posset�察�as
he says��
Made with Pramnian wine�察�and she grated cheese of goat's milk with a
grater of bronze�察�and at his side placed an onion which gives a relish
to drink。
Now would you say that the art of the rhapsode or the art of
medicine was better able to judge of the propriety of these lines��
Ion。 The art of medicine。
Soc。 And when Homer says��
And she descended into the deep like a leaden plummet�察�which�察�set in
the horn of ox that ranges in the fields�察�rushes along carrying
death among the ravenous fishes�察�
will the art of the fisherman or of the rhapsode be better able to
judge whether these lines are rightly expressed or not��
Ion。 Clearly�察�Socrates�察�the art of the fisherman。
Soc。 Come now�察�suppose that you were to say to me�此 �Since you��
Socrates�察�are able to assign different passages in Homer to their
corresponding arts�察�I wish that you would tell me what are the
passages of which the excellence ought to be judged by the prophet and
prophetic art;�察�and you will see how readily and truly I shall
answer you。 For there are many such passages�察�particularly in the
Odyssey�察�as�察�for example�察�the passage in which Theoclymenus the
prophet of the house of Melampus says to the suitors�此�
Wretched men� �what is happening to you�拭�Your heads and your faces
and your limbs underneath are shrouded in night�察�and the voice of
lamentation bursts forth�察�and your cheeks are wet with tears。 And
the vestibule is full�察�and the court is full�察�of ghosts descending
into the darkness of Erebus�察�and the sun has perished out of heaven��
and an evil mist is spread abroad。
And there are many such passages in the Iliad also�察�as for example
in the description of the battle near the rampart�察�where he says�此�
As they were eager to pass the ditch�察�there came to them an omen��
a soaring eagle�察�holding back the people on the left�察�bore a huge
bloody dragon in his talons�察�still living and panting�察�nor had he
yet resigned the strife�察�for he bent back and smote the bird which
carried him on the breast by the neck�察�and he in pain let him fall
from him to the ground into the midst of the multitude。 And the eagle��
with a cry�察�was borne afar on the wings of the wind。
These are the sort of things which I should say that the prophet
ought to consider and determine。
Ion。 And you are quite right�察�Socrates�察�in saying so。
Soc。 Yes�察�Ion�察�and you are right also。 And as I have selected from
the Iliad and Odyssey for you passages which describe the office of
the prophet and the physician and the fisherman�察�do you�察�who know
Homer so much better than I do�察�Ion�察�select for me passages which
relate to the rhapsode and the rhapsode's art�察�and which the
rhapsode ought to examine and judge of better than other men。
Ion。 All passages�察�I should say�察�Socrates。
Soc。 Not all�察�Ion�察�surely。 Have you already forgotten what you
were saying�拭�A rhapsode ought to have a better memory。
Ion。 Why�察�what am I forgetting��
Soc。 Do you not remember that you declared the art of the rhapsode
to be different from the art of the charioteer��
Ion。 Yes�察�I remember。
Soc。 And you admitted that being different they would have different
subjects of knowledge��
Ion。 Yes。
Soc。 Then upon your own showing the rhapsode�察�and the art of the
rhapsode�察�will not know everything��
Ion。 I should exclude certain things�察�Socrates。
Soc。 You mean to say that you would exclude pretty much the subjects
of the other arts。 As he does not know all of them�察�which of them will
he know��
Ion。 He will know what a man and what a woman ought to say�察�and what
a freeman and what a slave ought to say�察�and what a ruler and what a
subject。
Soc。 Do you mean that a rhapsode will know better than the pilot
what the ruler of a sea´tossed vessel ought to say��
Ion。 No�察�the pilot will know best。
Soc。 Or will the rhapsode know better than the physician what the
ruler of a sick man ought to say��
Ion。 He will not。
Soc。 But he will know what a slave ought to say��
Ion。 Yes。
Soc。 Suppose the slave to be a cowherd�察�the rhapsode will know
better than the cowherd what he ought to say in order to soothe the
infuriated cows��
Ion。 No�察�he will not。
Soc。 But he will know what a spinning´woman ought to say about the
working of wool��
Ion。 No。
Soc。 At any rate he will know