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similarity。 A flame is a process of becoming�察�involving a constant



interchange of moist and dry。 It cannot be said to be nourished



since it scarcely persists as one and the same for a moment。 This



cannot be true of the sun�察�for if it were nourished like that�察�as they



say it is�察�we should obviously not only have a new sun every day�察�as



Heraclitus says�察�but a new sun every moment。 Again�察�when the sun



causes the moisture to rise�察�this is like fire heating water。 So�察�as



the fire is not fed by the water above it�察�it is absurd to suppose



that the sun feeds on that moisture�察�even if its heat made all the



water in the world evaporate。 Again�察�it is absurd�察�considering the



number and size of the stars�察�that these thinkers should consider



the sun only and overlook the question how the rest of the heavenly



bodies subsist。 Again�察�they are met by the same difficulty as those



who say that at first the earth itself was moist and the world round



the earth was warmed by the sun�察�and so air was generated and the



whole firmament grew�察�and the air caused winds and solstices。 The



objection is that we always plainly see the water that has been



carried up coming down again。 Even if the same amount does not come



back in a year or in a given country�察�yet in a certain period all that



has been carried up is returned。 This implies that the celestial



bodies do not feed on it�察�and that we cannot distinguish between



some air which preserves its character once it is generated and some



other which is generated but becomes water again and so perishes�察�on



the contrary�察�all the moisture alike is dissolved and all of it



condensed back into water。



  The drinkable�察�sweet water�察�then�察�is light and is all of it drawn



up�此�the salt water is heavy and remains behind�察�but not in its natural



place。 For this is a question which has been sufficiently discussed ��I



mean about the natural place that water�察�like the other elements�察�must



in reason have���察�and the answer is this。 The place which we see the



sea filling is not its natural place but that of water。 It seems to



belong to the sea because the weight of the salt water makes it remain



there�察�while the sweet�察�drinkable water which is light is carried



up。 The same thing happens in animal bodies。 Here�察�too�察�the food



when it enters the body is sweet�察�yet the residuum and dregs of liquid



food are found to be bitter and salt。 This is because the sweet and



drinkable part of it has been drawn away by the natural animal heat



and has passed into the flesh and the other parts of the body



according to their several natures。 Now just as here it would be wrong



for any one to refuse to call the belly the place of liquid food



because that disappears from it soon�察�and to call it the place of



the residuum because this is seen to remain�察�so in the case of our



present subject。 This place�察�we say�察�is the place of water。 Hence



all rivers and all the water that is generated flow into it�此�for water



flows into the deepest place�察�and the deepest part of the earth is



filled by the sea。 Only all the light and sweet part of it is



quickly carried off by the sun�察�while herest remains for the reason we



have explained。 It is quite natural that some people should have



been puzzled by the old question why such a mass of water leaves no



trace anywhere ��for the sea does not increase though innumerable and



vast rivers are flowing into it every day。�� But if one considers the



matter the solution is easy。 The same amount of water does not take as



long to dry up when it is spread out as when it is gathered in a body��



and indeed the difference is so great that in the one case it might



persist the whole day long while in the other it might all disappear



in a moment´as for instance if one were to spread out a cup of water



over a large table。 This is the case with the rivers�此�all the time



they are flowing their water forms a compact mass�察�but when it arrives



at a vast wide place it quickly and imperceptibly evaporates。



  But the theory of the Phaedo about rivers and the sea is impossible。



There it is said that the earth is pierced by intercommunicating



channels and that the original head and source of all waters is what



is called Tartarus´a mass of water about the centre�察�from which all



waters�察�flowing and standing�察�are derived。 This primary and original



water is always surging to and fro�察�and so it causes the rivers to



flow on this side of the earth's centre and on that�察�for it has no



fixed seat but is always oscillating about the centre。 Its motion up



and down is what fills rivers。 Many of these form lakes in various



places ��our sea is an instance of one of these���察�but all of them



come round again in a circle to the original source of their flow��



many at the same point�察�but some at a point opposite to that from



which they issued�察�for instance�察�if they started from the other side



of the earth's centre�察�they might return from this side of it。 They



descend only as far as the centre�察�for after that all motion is



upwards。 Water gets its tastes and colours from the kind of earth



the rivers happened to flow through。



  But on this theory rivers do not always flow in the same sense。



For since they flow to the centre from which they issue forth they



will not be flowing down any more than up�察�but in whatever direction



the surging of Tartarus inclines to。 But at this rate we shall get the



proverbial rivers flowing upwards�察�which is impossible。 Again�察�where



is the water that is generated and what goes up again as vapour to



come from�拭�For this must all of it simply be ignored�察�since the



quantity of water is always the same and all the water that flows



out from the original source flows back to it again。 This itself is



not true�察�since all rivers are seen to end in the sea except where one



flows into another。 Not one of them ends in the earth�察�but even when



one is swallowed up it comes to the surface again。 And those rivers



are large which flow for a long distance through a lowying country��



for by their situation and length they cut off the course of many



others and swallow them up。 This is why the Istrus and the Nile are



the greatest of the rivers which flow into our sea。 Indeed�察�so many



rivers fall into them that there is disagreement as to the sources



of them both。 All of which is plainly impossible on the theory�察�and



the more so as it derives the sea from Tartarus。



  Enough has been said to prove that this is the natural place of



water and not of the sea�察�and to explain why sweet water is only found



in rivers�察�while salt water is stationary�察�and to show that the sea is



the end rather than the source of water�察�analogous to the residual



matter of all food�察�and especially liquid food�察�in animal bodies。







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  We must now explain why the sea is salt�察�and ask whether it



eternally exists as identically the same body�察�or whether it did not



exist at all once and some day will exist no longer�察�but will dry up



as some people think。



  Every one admits this�察�that if the whole world originated the sea



did too�察�for they make them come into being at the same time。 It



follows that if the universe is eternal the same must be true of the



sea。 Any one who thinks like Democritus that the sea is diminishing



and will disappear in the end reminds us of Aesop's tales。 His story



was that Charybdis had twice sucked in the sea�此�the first time she



made the mountains visible�察�the second time the islands�察�and when



she sucks it in for the last time she will dry it up entirely。 Such



a tale is appropriate enough to Aesop in a rage with the ferryman�察�but



not to serious inquirers。 Whatever made the sea remain at first��



whether it was its weight�察�as some even of those who hold these



views say ��for it is easy 

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