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yours if they are not stouter or made of costlier material than the others�拭�
Because�察�Socrates ��he answered���察�mine are of much finer proportion。
Soc。 Proportion� �Then how do you make this quality apparent to the
customer so as to justify the higher priceby measure or weight�拭 �For I
presume you cannot make them all exactly equal and of one pattern if
you make them fit�察�as of course you do�拭�
Fit indeed� �that I most distinctly do ��he answered���察�take my word for it�此�
no use in a corselet without that。
But then are not the wearer's bodies themselves ��asked Socrates�� some
well proportioned and others ill�拭�
Decidedly so ��he answered��。
Soc。 Then how do you manage to make the corselet well proportioned
if it is to fit an ill´proportioned body�殖�12�А�
��12�А �Or�察 �how do you make a well´proportioned corselet fit an ill´
proportioned body�拭�how well proportioned�拭─�
Pist。 To the same degree exactly as I make it fit。 What fits is well
proportioned。
Soc。 It seems you use the term ;well´proportioned; not in an absolute
sense�察�but in reference to the wearer�察�just as you might describe a shield as
well proportioned to the individual it suits�察�and so of a military cloak�察�and
so of the rest of things�察�in your terminology�拭�But maybe there is another
considerable advantage in this ;fitting;�拭�
Pist。 Pray instruct me�察�Socrates�察�if you have got an idea。
Soc。 A corselet which fits is less galling by its weight than one which
does not fit�察�for the latter must either drag from the shoulders with a dead
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weight or press upon some other part of the body�察 �and so it becomes
troublesome and uncomfortable�察 �but that which fits�察 �having its weight
distributed partly along the collar´bone and shoulder´ blade�察 �partly over
the shoulders and chest�察�and partly the back and belly�察�feels like another
natural integument rather than an extra load to carry。��13�А�
��13�А �Schneider ad loc。 cf Eur。 ;Electr。; 192�察 。�prosthemata aglaias���察�
and for the weight cf。 Aristoph。 ;Peace�察─�1224。
Pist。 You have named the very quality which gives my work its
exceptional value�察�as I consider�察�still there are customers�察�I am bound to
say�察 �who look for something else in a corseletthey must have them
ornamental or inlaid with gold。
For all that ��replied Socrates���察�if they end by purchasing an ill´ fitting
article�察 �they only become the proprietors of a curiously´ wrought and
gilded nuisance�察�as it seems to me。 But ��he added���察�as the body is never in
one fixed position�察�but is at one time curved�察�at another raised erect how
can an exactly´modelled corselet fit�拭�
Pist。 It cannot fit at all。 You mean ��Socrates continued�� that it is not
the exactly´modelled corselet which fits�察�but that which does not gall the
wearer in the using�拭�
Pist。 There�察�Socrates�察�you have hit the very point。 I see you understand
the matter most precisely。��14�А�
��14�А �Or�察 �There�察 �Socrates�察 �you have hit the very phrase。 I could not
state the matter more explicitly myself。;
XI
There was once in the city a fair woman named Theodote。��1�А�She was
not only fair�察 �but ready to consort with any suitor who might win her
favour。 Now it chanced that some one of the company mentioned her�察�
saying that her beauty beggared description。 ;So fair is she�察─ �he added�察�
;that painters flock to draw her portrait�察 �to whom�察 �within the limits of
decorum�察�she displays the marvels of her beauty。; ;Then there is nothing
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for it but to go and see her�察─�answered Socrates�察 �since to comprehend by
hearsay what is beyond description is clearly impossible。; Then he who
had introduced the matter replied�此 �Be quick then to follow me;�察�and on
this wise they set off to seek Theodote。 They found her ;posing; to a
certain painter�察 �and they took their stand as spectators。 Presently the
painter had ceased his work�察�whereupon Socrates�此�
��1�А�For Theodote see Athen。 v。 200 F�察�xiii。 574 F�察�Liban。 i。 582。 Some
say that it was Theodote who stood by Alcibiades to the last�察 �though
there are apparently other better claimants to the honour。 Plut。 ;Alc。;
��Clough�察�ii。 p。 50��。
;Do you think�察�sirs�察�that we ought to thank Theodote for displaying her
beauty to us�察 �or she us for coming to gaze at her�拭 � 。 。 It would seem�察�
would it not�察�that if the exhibition of her charms is the more profitable to
her�察�the debt is on her side�察�but if the spectacle of her beauty confers the
greater benefit on us�察�then we are her debtors。;
Some one answered that ;was an equitable statement of the case。;
Well then ��he continued���察 �as far as she is concerned�察 �the praise we
bestow on her is an immediate gain�察�and presently�察�when we have spread
her fame abroad�察 �she will be further benefited�察 �but for ourselves the
immediate effect on us is a strong desire to touch what we have seen�察�by
and by�察 �too�察 �we shall go away with a sting inside us�察 �and when we are
fairly gone we shall be consumed with longing。 Consequently it seems that
we should do her service and she accept our court。
Whereupon Theodote�此�Oh dear� �if that is how the matter stands�察�it is I
who am your debtor for the spectacle。��2�А�
��2�А �In reference to the remark of Socrates above�察 �or�察 �have to thank
you for coming to look at me。;
At this point�察�seeing that the lady herself was expensively attired�察�and
that she had with her her mother also�察 �whose dress and style of
attendance��3�А �were out of the common�察 �not to speak of the waiting´
womenmany and fair to look upon�察�who presented anything but a forlorn
appearance�察�while in every respect the whole house itself was sumptuously
furnishedSocrates put a question�此�
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��3�А �Or�察 �her mother there with her in a dress and general get´up
�┌�therapeia���� which was out of the common。; See Becker�察�
;Charicles�察─�p。 247 ��Eng。 tr。��
Pray tell me�察�Theodote�察�have you an estate in the country�拭�
Theod。 Not I indeed。
Soc。 Then perhaps you possess a house and large revenues along with
it�拭�
Theod。 No�察�nor yet a house。
Soc。 You are not an employer of labour on a large scale�殖�4�А�
��4�А�Lit。 ;You have not ��in your employ�� a body of handicraftsmen of
any sort�拭─�
Theod。 No�察�nor yet an employer of labour。
Soc。 From what source�察 �then�察 �do you get your means of
subsistence�殖�5�А�
��5�А�Or�察�Anglice�察 �derive your income。;
Theod。 My friends are my life and fortune�察�when they care to be kind
to me。
Soc。 By heaven�察�Theodote�察�a very fine property indeed�察�and far better
worth possessing than a multitude of sheep or goats or cattle。 A flock of
friends� � 。 。 But ��he added�� do you leave it to fortune whether a friend
lights like a fly