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yours if they are not stouter or made of costlier material than the others�拭�

     Because�察�Socrates ��he answered���察�mine are of much finer proportion。 

     Soc。 Proportion� �Then how do you make this quality apparent to the 

customer   so   as   to   justify   the   higher   priceby   measure   or   weight�拭  �For   I 

presume   you cannot make them all exactly equal and of one pattern if 

you make them fit�察�as of course you do�拭�

     Fit indeed� �that I most distinctly do ��he answered���察�take my word for it�此�

no use in a corselet without that。 

     But then are not the wearer's bodies themselves ��asked Socrates�� some 

well proportioned and others ill�拭�

     Decidedly so ��he answered��。 

     Soc。 Then how do you manage to make the corselet well proportioned 

if it is to fit an ill´proportioned body�殖�12�А�

     ��12�А  �Or�察   �how   do   you   make   a   well´proportioned   corselet   fit   an   ill´ 

proportioned body�拭�how well proportioned�拭─�

     Pist。   To   the   same   degree   exactly   as   I   make   it   fit。   What   fits   is   well 

proportioned。 

     Soc。 It seems you use the term ;well´proportioned; not in an absolute 

sense�察�but in reference to the wearer�察�just as you might describe a shield as 

well proportioned to the individual it suits�察�and so of a military cloak�察�and 

so of the rest of things�察�in your terminology�拭�But maybe there is another 

considerable advantage in this ;fitting;�拭�

     Pist。 Pray instruct me�察�Socrates�察�if you have got an idea。 

     Soc。 A corselet which fits is less galling by its weight than one which 

does not fit�察�for the latter must either drag from the shoulders with a dead 



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weight   or   press   upon   some   other   part   of   the   body�察  �and   so   it   becomes 

troublesome   and   uncomfortable�察  �but   that   which   fits�察  �having   its   weight 

distributed   partly   along   the   collar´bone   and   shoulder´   blade�察  �partly   over 

the shoulders and chest�察�and partly the back and belly�察�feels like another 

natural integument rather than an extra load to carry。��13�А�

     ��13�А  �Schneider   ad   loc。   cf   Eur。   ;Electr。;   192�察  。�prosthemata   aglaias���察�

and for the weight cf。 Aristoph。 ;Peace�察─�1224。 

     Pist。   You    have    named     the   very   quality    which    gives    my   work     its 

exceptional value�察�as I consider�察�still there are customers�察�I am bound to 

say�察  �who     look   for  something   else      in   a  corseletthey   must     have    them 

ornamental or inlaid with gold。 

     For all that ��replied Socrates���察�if they end by purchasing an ill´ fitting 

article�察  �they   only   become   the   proprietors   of   a   curiously´   wrought   and 

gilded nuisance�察�as it seems to me。 But ��he added���察�as the body is never in 

one fixed position�察�but is at one time curved�察�at another raised erect how 

can an exactly´modelled corselet fit�拭�

     Pist。 It cannot fit at all。      You mean ��Socrates continued�� that it is not 

the exactly´modelled corselet which fits�察�but that which does not gall the 

wearer in the using�拭�

     Pist。 There�察�Socrates�察�you have hit the very point。 I see you understand 

the matter most precisely。��14�А�

     ��14�А  �Or�察   �There�察  �Socrates�察  �you   have   hit   the   very   phrase。   I   could   not 

state the matter more explicitly myself。; 



                                                XI 



     There was once in the city a fair woman named Theodote。��1�А�She was 

not   only   fair�察  �but   ready   to   consort   with   any   suitor   who   might   win   her 

favour。   Now   it   chanced   that   some   one   of   the   company   mentioned   her�察�

saying   that   her   beauty   beggared   description。   ;So   fair   is   she�察─  �he   added�察�

;that   painters   flock   to   draw   her   portrait�察  �to   whom�察  �within   the   limits   of 

decorum�察�she displays the marvels of her beauty。; ;Then there is nothing 



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for it but to go and see her�察─�answered Socrates�察 �since to comprehend by 

hearsay  what   is   beyond   description   is   clearly  impossible。; Then   he   who 

had introduced the matter replied�此 �Be quick then to follow me;�察�and on 

this   wise   they   set   off   to   seek   Theodote。   They   found   her   ;posing;   to   a 

certain     painter�察  �and   they   took    their  stand    as  spectators。    Presently     the 

painter had ceased his work�察�whereupon Socrates�此�

     ��1�А�For Theodote see Athen。 v。 200 F�察�xiii。 574 F�察�Liban。 i。 582。 Some 

say that it was Theodote who stood by Alcibiades to the last�察                         �though 

there are apparently other better claimants to the honour。                       Plut。 ;Alc。; 

��Clough�察�ii。 p。 50��。 

     ;Do you think�察�sirs�察�that we ought to thank Theodote for displaying her 

beauty   to   us�察  �or   she   us   for   coming   to   gaze   at   her�拭   �   。   。   It   would   seem�察�

would it not�察�that if the exhibition of her charms is the more profitable to 

her�察�the debt is on her side�察�but if the spectacle of her beauty confers the 

greater benefit on us�察�then we are her debtors。; 

     Some one answered that ;was an equitable statement of the case。; 

     Well   then   ��he   continued���察  �as   far   as   she   is   concerned�察  �the   praise   we 

bestow on her is an immediate gain�察�and presently�察�when we have spread 

her    fame    abroad�察   �she   will   be  further    benefited�察   �but   for  ourselves     the 

immediate effect on us is a strong desire to touch what we have seen�察�by 

and   by�察  �too�察  �we   shall   go   away   with   a   sting   inside   us�察  �and   when   we   are 

fairly gone we shall be consumed with longing。 Consequently it seems that 

we should do her service and she accept our court。 

     Whereupon Theodote�此�Oh dear� �if that is how the matter stands�察�it is I 

who am your debtor for the spectacle。��2�А�

     ��2�А  �In   reference   to   the   remark   of   Socrates   above�察  �or�察   �have   to   thank 

you for coming to look at me。; 

     At this point�察�seeing that the lady herself was expensively attired�察�and 

that    she   had    with    her   her   mother     also�察  �whose      dress   and    style   of 

attendance��3�А      �were    out   of  the   common�察     �not   to  speak    of   the  waiting´ 

womenmany and fair to look upon�察�who presented anything but a forlorn 

appearance�察�while in every respect the whole house itself was sumptuously 

furnishedSocrates put a question�此�



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     ��3�А  �Or�察   �her  mother     there   with   her  in  a  dress   and   general    get´up 

�┌�therapeia����        which      was     out    of    the    common。;         See    Becker�察�

;Charicles�察─�p。 247 ��Eng。 tr。�� 

     Pray tell me�察�Theodote�察�have you an estate in the country�拭�

     Theod。 Not I indeed。 

     Soc。 Then perhaps you possess a house and large revenues along with 

it�拭�

     Theod。 No�察�nor yet a house。 

     Soc。 You are not an employer of labour on a large scale�殖�4�А�

     ��4�А�Lit。 ;You have not ��in your employ�� a body of handicraftsmen of 

any sort�拭─�

     Theod。 No�察�nor yet an employer of labour。 

     Soc。     From     what     source�察    �then�察   �do   you     get   your     means     of 

subsistence�殖�5�А�

     ��5�А�Or�察�Anglice�察 �derive your income。; 

     Theod。 My friends are my life and fortune�察�when they care to be kind 

to me。 

     Soc。 By heaven�察�Theodote�察�a very fine property indeed�察�and far better 

worth possessing than a multitude of sheep or goats or cattle。 A flock of 

friends�    �   。   。   But   ��he   added��   do   you   leave  it   to   fortune   whether   a   friend 

lights   like   a   fly

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